Bach made an impromptu visit to King Frederick the Great of Prussia, and was . Gödel, Escher, and Bach are deeply intertwined in this very short Dialogue. What are some of the most riveting concepts featured in Gödel, Escher, Bach? Why isn’t the Douglas Hofstadter book Gödel, Escher, Bach available as an. Douglas Hofstadter Excerpts from Hofstadter’s Books. On what GEB is really all about (from Gödel, Escher, Bach: 20th Anniversary Ed.) So what is this book, Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid — usually known by its acronym.

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The second one is information theory — another significant gap, considering that some results in information theory are perfectly applicable to more than a few of the author’s items of analysis, starting from the information processing in the brain which is nothing more than a sophisticated information processing biological machine, after allall the way down to the information processing in molecular biology and genetics as enabled by the genetic code.

How many of those integer guys are running around again? A recursive set is one in which figure and ground holds equal importance. Although at the upper level, our consciousness is an unprovable system, at the base level, the neurons are performing logically.

The book alternates between Chapters and Dialogues. Feynman diagrams are not to be confused with spacetime diagrams, nor with what you would see in a bubble chamber.

And after a little while, you’re both very comfortable with each other and the time passes quickly. I didn’t find what followed to be original, revolutionary, or brilliant; rather, I found it repetitive, regurgitated, and egotistical.

Through illustration and analysis, the book discusses how, through self-reference and formal rules, systems can acquire meaning despite being made of “meaningless” elements.

It took this guy over pages to illustrate by analogy his not-particularly novel theory which he sums up finally as follows: And it does not matter. You will be required to think about the problems presented, and work to understand and use the complex logical systems that have been created, or you will quickly lose the thread of the argument.


United States Department of Justice. If you think you’d be interested in the subject matter AND you wouldn’t mind playing simple word or math games in the service of understanding it AND the inner workings of a computer scientist’s marvelous brain seem interesting to you, then definitely read this book. It is the information that tells you how to decode the frame message to get the inner message that is implicit in the frame message.

Still, the threads and nuggets of gold that are spread throughout make it worth the time spent in the dark mines of incomprehension, if only to find that one fist-sized chunk of precious metal and appreciate its beauty set against the background of your own ignorance. Roger Merritt An axiom is something that is just assumed to be true.

Cover of the first edition. How can Self be in its own acronym? May 13, Barbara rated it did not like it Shelves: Not merely as an intellectual exercise, but deep in my emotional breadbasket, if you will, I feel human in a way that I can’t explain when I think about the difficulty of trying to translate my hopes, fears, love, creativity, wordplay, happiness, sadness, and ambitions into machine language.

These narratives frequently dip into self-reference and metafiction. Besides, Hofstadter gives an implicit warning when quoting Marvin Minsky, who said: Is it about minds and machines?

Is your gullibility located in some “gullibility center” in your brain? But if you read this review and you get the feeling you probably won’t like this book, you’re probably right. Yet for us, standing outside the picture, we can see the obvious tricks that were used to construct it. Inhe moved to the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, where he was hired as a professor of psychology and was also appointed to the Walgreen Chair for the Study of Human Understanding.

In a short book or a movie, cleverness can be fun and exciting.

Form and content have always mutually determined each other in any fiction worth reading. Their work is just useful in getting deeper down into that idea of interacting layers that produce complexity. The takeaway for me was pretty strange looptying back to the nature of decidability.

From the lower isomorphisms, you create higher level isomorphisms with the new bizarre patterns that defy the physical laws. It is published by Basic Books in hardback, and is worth whatever you may pay for it. The second one is recursive, in which the ground is as important as the figure. Much admiration for those who I have always wanted to be brilliant.


Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid

Few things have allowed me to unwind, concentrate, and harness my mental energy as quic Absolutely beautiful. He loves it so much that he tries to infect you with his own personal sense of wonder and whimsy at how complex and beautiful art and life and science are.

I hope you like this. Hofstadter, and even to you, but to me, hofstaster may be an entirely different conclusion from the same information. And if Michelangelo had been Siamese twins, the work would have been completed in half the time. The book had everything you could ask for: It is difficult, however, for us to jump out of ourselves. View all 14 comments.

Gödel, Escher, Bach – Wikipedia

Colonade of St Peter’s Nocturnal Rome: We have never seen God, but can only guess based on our subjective feeling. Even concepts such as omega-inconsistency are made easily understandable — a significant achievement. To be fair, it is a very ambitious book, and one that could have turned out couglas interestingly, but it’s also plainly obvious Hofstadter just wasn’t up to the job.

Granted, this book may not be for everyone. This puzzle contains the string MIU.

Godel, Escher, Bach : An Eternal Golden Braid

There’s a recursive paradox in there somewhere. It would be like recommending large doses of LSD to everyone: Much admiration for those who understand whatever the bloody hell it’s telling you.

I’m afraid I have only read the first half of the last quarter. The most complex example of recursion is in the genetic mechanism of DNA, bodel which the DNA molecules are formed from the smaller building blocks.